72. The Die Is Cast

Perry and David are back at it with the exciting conclusion to a unique two part episode. Plus, the foundations of serialization!

The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
72. The Die Is Cast

What to expect from episode 72: The Die Is Cast?


The Die is Cast, the conclusion to Improbable Cause.

Perry and David discuss what this episode means to Deep Space Nine.

First Impressions.

Perry teases a spoiler.

The beginning in the middle.

Enabrin Tain and Elim Garak: back at it again.

The fascination with torture and Gul Dukat.

Michael Eddington makes his presence known.

The problems with The Defiant.

Odo is tortured.

We find out a lot about the Changelings.

Colonel Lovok impresses both David and Perry.

Colonel Lovok was on ER!

David states why The Die is Cast is such a great Episode.

Perry discusses the pivotal role of this episode for what is to come.

Sabotage on the Defiant!

O’Brien is angry.

Major Kira can’t keep her seat.

Perry reveals the Star Trek Easter egg.

What we can infer about humanity in Star Trek.

The Bashir problem, and how it relates to real life.

Why TV sucks and how Perry thinks it can be fixed.

What’s up in TV Land and New Trek.

The games we play.

The Shows we watch.

Progress on The Expanse Books

Up next for The Fire Caves.

Having fun tearing down other shows.

The Mindy Problem.

The Die is Cast and other relatable episodes.

Season 4 is around the corner.

Go Listen to The Fire Caves!

The Last of Us, and other shows.

Perry is still not watching Halo.

How to have fun with Trek.

The Defiant to the rescue.

What happened to that Runabout?

Does Tain Survive?

Odo is the ultimate persuader.

The ending and the beginning of an unusual friendship.

You know, Garak really is a very good tailor.

Episode Credits


  • David Wampler
  • Perry Freeze


  • Perry Freeze

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The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
72. The Die Is Cast