81. The Visitor

Perry and David discuss the critically acclaimed episode The Visitor. Plus Contest updates and plans for future shows! Tune in!

The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
81. The Visitor

What to expect from episode 81: The Visitor?


The Visitor, an emotional roller coaster!

The Sisko family is our favorite!

We see Jake is finally a man.

Ben Sisko is parenting goals.

The Sisko’s go to the wormhole.

Perry and David talk first impressions.

Who is this old man?

Who is the mystery woman?

The Home of Elder Jake Sisko.

What we can learn about the role of Ben Sisko.

The Visitor revealed.

Ben is trapped in a pocket of subspace.

Life goes on, but Jake is stuck.

Quark tries to help.

There is no Rom in this episode.

The Death that wasn’t.

Kira and Dax try to be a comfort.

Tony Todd is remarkable.

Trying to age up Jake.

The work of Tony Todd.

Perry and David discuss the loss of a loved one.

The Visitor reappears.

Old Ben, and even older Jake.

Rachel makes a connection.

The Books of Jake Sisko.

Jake quits writing and goes back to school.

The Defiant is still kicking but fifty years later.

Captain Nog!

Old Julian and Dax….are they married?

Starfleet is strange as people age.

Why the Sisko family dynamic is so important.

Perry talks about parenting.

David discusses his favorite moments.

The Mug Contest update!

Perry is still not watching Halo.

Things to get caught up on.

Star Trek Picard and why Worf is still awesome.

What’s next for The Fire Caves.

The Visitor explained.


The Expanse.

New books.

A look back.

A future unrealized.

Perry and David discuss failures of the episode.

What we would like to see in Trek.

Timeline Predictions.

Updates on NuTrek and returning series.

Perry thinks Section 31 is DOA.

What we can expect from Starfleet Academy.

Episode Credits


  • David Wampler
  • Perry Freeze


  • Perry Freeze

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The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
The Fire Caves - A Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Podcast
81. The Visitor